Seb is a french guy living in London. He moved in London to get more opportunities for his carrier as an actor. I met him in 2015 and a week after we became friends, he was diagnosed Multiple Sclerosis. I’ve seen all the process of his suffering right beside him. I learned that the essence of pain is too complex and private to be captured at a glance. Seb was a turning point of my works capturing the momentary impressions from street people. Instead, I started recording Seb’s words, drawing him with deep conversations, and conducting interviews.